Tuesday, October 04, 2005

Sinister Bengalis in comics


From The Dreaming no. 52, by Caitlin R. Kiernan, Vertigo

12 Comments:

Blogger thalassa_mikra said...

Ok, when did Calcutta and Bangkok become twin cities?

9:36 AM  
Blogger samit said...

About the same time we all started speaking in Hindu, the language the Indian types in this comic speak. It's also got Buddhist monks with Hindu names, beards, guns and Kali idols.

Research takes a long time, and the writer clearly didnt think anyone in India would ever read it.

11:44 AM  
Blogger Gamesmaster G9 said...

People of the calibre of Garth Ennis have screwed it up, while Mark Millar just about managed in Ultimate X-Men.

And yet, Bill Willingham managed to write a fantastic Mowgli in the ongoing arc of Fables. It doesn't take that much time, really.

2:07 PM  
Blogger #3tiYo>B_shyo> said...

or maybe they're just lazy.. u kno bout the reserch part.

2:39 PM  
Blogger samit said...

well, even gaiman and pratchett get indian stuff wrong. i remember something being alluded to in Good Omens as 'the Shiv of Kali' and there was some small inconsistency in the Indian bits of American gods as well...theres also something vaguely wrong about Kali in Worlds End, i forget what.
i was reading Premendra Mitra recently and was most impressed by the research that must have gone into the creation of his faraway places. many many years before the net made writing research so much easier.
obviously it would be far better if they got it right all the time, but i guess its just such an alien place for them to be in, and the characters are so minor anyway, that its excusable. some of the myth research resources on the net are fairly dicey as well, which could be the main reason for this. itll get better as time passes and the world becomes even flatter.
still not the best way to hook your indian readers...but indian readers are still a very tiny part of the great big picture.

9:20 PM  
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8:41 AM  
Blogger thalassa_mikra said...

I say bless Herge for being ever so meticulous. Even though he deals with so many different locations around the world, he manages to come out fairly accurate with most of them. Perhaps he employed a kickass fact-checker. Do check out the Tintin website for the section on Herge's attention to details. Pure genius!

2:00 PM  
Blogger Gamesmaster G9 said...

Not always, Swati - see Tintin au Congo, for an example of how NOT to draw people of other cultures.

2:40 PM  
Blogger samit said...

well, i guess you can use the 'colonial attitude at the time' defence there. like they do for tolkien. its a pretty sad defence, but it must be taken into consideration, i think.

7:43 PM  
Blogger Teleute said...

oh yes - tintin au congo was just unbelievably horrible. i have not quite been able to read tintin with as much enthusiasm since then.
and if i even get started with non-graphic novels that make a hash of india or any other such country for that matter...

5:30 AM  
Blogger thalassa_mikra said...

Samit, Ani, Let me confess that I haven't read Tintin au Congo, and what I've heard about it isn't very inspiring. The weak defense is that it was his very first book, written in a Belgium that embraced its colonial role with relish. As far as I know, he hadn't travelled to Congo, so most of his information was second hand.

I'm not attempting a defence at all, simply stating that in his later books I do not see the sort of colonialist patronizing that he's been accused of in Tintin au Congo.

1:09 AM  
Blogger Teleute said...

oh please. tintin is enchanting, yes, but read for example tintin and the picaros and tintin in america... if herge's attitude to the Picaros and the Blackfeet is not that of colonialist patronizing, then what is?

9:42 PM  

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